Not especially. I think what they're actually doing is promoting the idea that "women" should be defined in a way that encompasses trans women, using a dumb but catchy slogan.
As an analogy, imagine intersex activists saying something like "CAIS women are women!"
CAIS is a developmental condition in which someone with XY chromosomes is born with an apparently female body, because their cells don't respond to testosterone. They're infertile, with no ovaries or uterus, but otherwise they have a female external appearance and gender identity. Usually, no one suspects anything is wrong until after puberty, when they develop breasts but never menstruate.
An activist who shouts "CAIS women are women" isn't saying this condition will magically resolve itself and turn them into fertile XX women.
They're saying people with CAIS are or should be treated as women in everyday society, despite not having all the typical female biology, and thus that we shouldn't define "women" so narrowly that it excludes them...
...which is basically what TWAW is saying for trans women.
I couldn't write a comprehensive list of every way people and organizations act differently toward women than men, even if I wanted to. But the obvious ones that come to mind include:
* Referring to them as "her", "miss", "Mrs. Lastname", "hey lady", etc.
* Not screaming at them when they're encountered in a women's restroom or locker room
* Different assumptions about which products and services they're likely interested in (e.g. clothing sections at department stores, style recommendations at hair salons)
* Different opportunities or terms offered by organizations (e.g. single-sex dorms, ladies' nights, insurance premiums, SBA grants)
To be clear, "CAIS women are women" isn't an endorsement of treating women differently from men in any of those ways; it's an assertion that *if* some person or organization is going to distinguish between men and women, it should classify people with CAIS as women rather than men.
"""I'm still trying to figure out how conforming to male stereotypes makes you a dude."""
It doesn't make you a dude. But it does make other people more likely to see you as a dude. That's the point.
Are you sure that's what activists really mean when they say "trans women are women! Period!"?
I'm sure it isn't. They aren't talking about conforming to stereotypes when they say that.
They're talking about something even more elusive.
Not especially. I think what they're actually doing is promoting the idea that "women" should be defined in a way that encompasses trans women, using a dumb but catchy slogan.
As an analogy, imagine intersex activists saying something like "CAIS women are women!"
CAIS is a developmental condition in which someone with XY chromosomes is born with an apparently female body, because their cells don't respond to testosterone. They're infertile, with no ovaries or uterus, but otherwise they have a female external appearance and gender identity. Usually, no one suspects anything is wrong until after puberty, when they develop breasts but never menstruate.
An activist who shouts "CAIS women are women" isn't saying this condition will magically resolve itself and turn them into fertile XX women.
They're saying people with CAIS are or should be treated as women in everyday society, despite not having all the typical female biology, and thus that we shouldn't define "women" so narrowly that it excludes them...
...which is basically what TWAW is saying for trans women.
> They're saying people with CAIS are or should be treated as women in everyday society
What's it like to be treated as a woman?
I couldn't write a comprehensive list of every way people and organizations act differently toward women than men, even if I wanted to. But the obvious ones that come to mind include:
* Referring to them as "her", "miss", "Mrs. Lastname", "hey lady", etc.
* Not screaming at them when they're encountered in a women's restroom or locker room
* Different assumptions about which products and services they're likely interested in (e.g. clothing sections at department stores, style recommendations at hair salons)
* Different opportunities or terms offered by organizations (e.g. single-sex dorms, ladies' nights, insurance premiums, SBA grants)
To be clear, "CAIS women are women" isn't an endorsement of treating women differently from men in any of those ways; it's an assertion that *if* some person or organization is going to distinguish between men and women, it should classify people with CAIS as women rather than men.
Funny that these activists seem rather less nuanced, unless we need to talk about "male vaginas" and the like.
Twitter has a way of killing nuance, yeah.
I said not a peep about Twitter, and the phenomenon is not limited to that platform.
All right. I can't tell if you're being vague on purpose or what, so I'll leave you to it.